OLTL - Race Wars

Or The Marcie VS. Todd Debate. Basically Jase and I disagree on the whole situation. Our friendship hangs in the balance!

Oh yes before we begin I just want it known that OLTL is running on all cylinders at the moment. Truly I can say without hyperbole that it's the best soap on the air.

Jase: Rex and Adriana admitting their fault is so good.

Darn: Yeah, that'll satisfy the complainers.

Jase: It satisfied me.

Darn: Yes, the complainers. :P

Jase: I don't complain!

Darn: About Rex and Adriana you do!

Jase: Rightfully!

Jase: Until now, now they've cleared it up and I am happy.

Darn: I think everyone who kept Todd from that child except for Margaret was completely in the right.

Jase: That's because you smoke weed.

Jase: I'm sorry but after the first stop on Marcie and Tommy's Magical Mystery Tour that argument dried the fuck up.

Jase: And especially after she started waving the gun around.

Darn: That doesn't negate Todd's deep history of being, um, EVIL.

Jase: That doesn't change the fact that they weren't God or the law.

Jase: When you take the matriarch hostage with a gun you are no better than Todd.

Darn: Marcie went about keeping him in the wrong way, for sure but Todd went about taking him the wrong way and goes about life in general the wrong way.

Darn: Oh please.

Jase: I felt for her during this, and yes Todd is a bad man, but she became what she hated.

Jase: Well, that's why the story works, because we both feel two ways about it.

Jase: The show doesn't MAKE you feel one way or the other.

Darn: I suppose. Even though you're wrong.

Jase: Even though you smoke rocks.

Jase: With the rest of the white neo Nazis.

Jase: I liked the blanket thing.

Darn: I'm surprised Todd didn't rip it apart in front of Tommy while telling him Marcie was dead.

Jase: Oh, you.

Jase: Even yoooouuu admitted T&B melted your heart a few months ago.

Darn: Because for once he acted like a DECENT person.

Jase: What was he supposed to do, give the baby up?

Jase: Todd would never do that.

Darn: That's the problem with characters like Todd, they act decent for an episode and you have to praise them. People like Marcie fuck up for a few months and suddenly they're "just like Todd". It's just not true.

Darn: No, I wouldn't expect him to, that doesn't mean I can't dislike him for the way he's acted.

Jase: I don't just praise Todd when he's decent, I praise him when he's indecent because I like the character. That's in character, he does good things and horrible things. And yes, I do think Marcie in a way began to resemble Todd with her thoughtless and self obsessed actions.

Jase: She's not a rapist or murderer, but she was doing Todd-like things.

Darn: She kidnapped a baby, what other sort of Todd-like things did she do?

Jase: I don't think you can't dislike him but you have to admit he has another side to the character. He's had a bunch of scenes in the last couple months talking about how maybe Marcie is right, maybe he should let it go, he's a monster, blah blah blah.

Jase: She held Viki at gunpoint.

Darn: And she didn't kidnap Tommy to "punish" anyone the way Todd did when he took Blair's baby, she took him out of a desire to protect him.

Jase: In the end it started to become about punishing Todd and Michael.

Jase: She kept calling Michael up one last time to tell him he would never see them again and demanding money, come on, WTF?

Darn: Todd and his "I'm so awful, wah, wah, wah" bullshit has been going on for years.

Darn: I'm sorry but comparing Marcie to Todd is trying too hard to make her just as bad as him.

Jase: ANYONE who told her this was not good for the baby she had to yell at.

Jase: I don't think she's as bad as him. I do think she was going down that road.

Jase: Excuse me, I have to go find a bottle I can break so we can continue this discussion with me brandishing one end of it.

Jase: This is like Hannity & Colmes.

Darn: She wasn't anywhere near him, even at the end. And holding Viki hostage was horrible but didn't Todd hold half the town hostage with a fake bomb? And as everyone said Marcie wasn't going to hurt Viki, even Viki knew that.

Jase: Michael didn't, John didn't. Marcie didn't.

Darn: Oh come now. Tell me when desperation and intention became the same thing.

Jase: Why did any of them believe she could do it?

Darn: Because she was desperate, that's the only reason. Unlike Todd who when he hurts people does it with intent.

Jase: Because yeah, if not for Michael and Viki I think that could've ended with Marcie eating a gun.

Darn: I doubt they were thinking "If Viki talks smack to her she's gonna get a bullet to the knee."

Jase: Well, let's get meta, does Britney Spears hurt people with intent? I doubt it but she still hurts them.

Jase: And it's still not acceptable.

Darn: Of course not but you keep saying she was approaching Todd levels of awful.

Jase: I think you're supposed to draw parallels, yes. Marcie has spent all her time saying she could never do as Todd did, yet there she is pointing a gun at Viki and asking for a chopper.

Darn: Marcie's few months of being on the run and ONE NIGHT of a complete break from reality don't compare to years of destructive behavior, SORRY.

Jase: No it doesn't, but it doesn't excuse her, either.

Jase: I feel very sorry for her and I thought she was heartbreaking this last week, but still, I'm not sorry she's paying.

Darn: I'm not asking for her to be excused but she certainly has reasons for what she did. And the only reason I want her to pay is because it makes for a good story, not necessarily because she deserves it.

Jase: Okay then.

Jase: I am going to go throw a wastebasket through the window of the pizza parlor of your soul.

Enclosed from Jase: A special glimpse at somebody from OLTL's past courtesy of Shakespeare In The Park - Ellen Holly (a.k.a. Carla Hall) as Regan in King Lear with James Earl Jones.